‘Club Cub’ organizers fend off fraud allegations

1. I called these guys out after I attended the poorly ran event. I told them that they were jsut trying to make a quick buck at this event. They took the cheapest route availble for everything. When asked for feedback that is when I told them what I thought. I recieved a few emails from Rex and they pretty much said I shouldnt attend next year and I was the only one who had an issue. I also asked about the charity for this event. At other bear events they always say something about the Charity but for some reason at this one there was no mention of it. When i said something about it in the emails it was never mentioned again. I hope these guys get taken down for the shady con artist that they are. Also I would love to know if they have propper licensing for their Tshirts. I know they rip off a lot of big name logos for their profit.

2. If you know Ryan, you know that no rebuttal is needed. At this point the damage is done, the haters win. Believe what you will.

3. Dear Sweet Rex, First of all take a look at your comment…that is a rebuttale. Secondly,it has nothing to do with “haters” as you call them. You got greedy and got caught.
   . has nothing to do with “haters”.

4. well looks like you should just pack your bags and get out of town, we wont ever have anything to do with your group.

   I warned many people after dealing with your mess at Bear Hunt and also Club Cub that you are a flake, and yesterday IT WAS PROVEN ! beyond a shadow of a doubt!

5. rex and dustin need to leave for sure. but where will they go? everyone knows they are losers and fakes. they need to get out of scamming people.
   and to think dustin used to be a nice guy. this rex is a crazy guy!

6. the event was such a bore. it was a hoax.
   it wasn’t even worth the $60 bucks. no one will attend next year.

   i wonder if they do have proper licensing…! i hope the Project Halo takes them DOWN!

   i tried to dispute the charge on my cc… but it was too late. such a bunch of losers!

7. ENOUGH SAID. CLOSE SHOP AND MOVE ON!

8. Time to pack up and move on. You have sucked the life out of the community way too long as it is. Rex got caught…. Face it!!!

9. peace out losers

10. Wow 100 bucks? What an insulting paltry sum from bear event. Enough money to feed two shelter dogs for 1 month? I hope the two street dogs get what they deserve.
    HALO, I’m sending your NP a money order. I would send a check but NPs tend to share donation info.

11. You can’t claim to be a non-profit tax free group and actually keep all the money for yourself. Illegal or not, you’re raping the community by claiming to be non-profit having never registered for such. Also, did you see this from their website?

    http://clubcub.net/index.php?main_page=page&id=4

    In short it says “Our charitable contribution is increased with great friends who help us save on costs by pitching in. Shifts will be limited to 2 hours”

    How many of you VOLUNTEERED to help club cup so that they could increase their “charitable contributions”. Two years of parties, $60 a ticket. Total contributions, $100 (after being caught)

12. I JUST CALLED MY BANK AND SENT THEM THE LINK ABOUT THE FRAUD. THEY ARE LOOKING INTO IT AND THEY SAID THERE IS A GREAT CHANCE THAT THE MONEY WILL BE REFUNDED B/C OF THE SCAM.

    I HOPE PROJECT HALO PRESS’S CHARGES. OUR HARD EARNED MONEY IN THIS RECESSION IS PAYING FOR DUSTIN AND REX TO TRAVEL AROUND AND PARTY.

    SCAMMERS BEWARE!

14. I really think anyone on facebook needs to add that link or video to their own page. We also need to add it to the countless Wooftease facebook profiles. Our Community is, deeply affected by this but can you imagine, how the national community is going to react to the news? I think they need to be made accountable by the Secretary of State, IRS etc. The more I think of it the angrier I get. How can “the haters” win? How can a man like him even call anyone a name? Where is Dustin? Hiding? I also hope that every company they rip off a logo from, goes after them. LOSERS!

15. Amazing what happens when you try to rip people off, not to mention all of the large corporate logos they’ve been ripping off over the past few years….karma is a vicious thing!

16. Anonymous posting is a hell of a thing. Believe what you will.

17. In 2009 I was approached by Jeff Enochs to make a donation. He asked for a check made out to him. Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t give him anything because it seemed off that someone would be asking for a donation and want the check made out to them personally.

18. Look how quickly they took down the webpage I posted above that asks for your VOLUNTEER work so they can increase their charitable donations!

    I guess Rex doesn’t like his lies called out by the “haters” Oh well. Good thing I snapped a photo.. view it here

    [IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/ofszo3.jpg[/IMG]

    Or even here

    http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ofszo3&s=7

    What scum. Says “Believe what you will”, Then runs to take down the evidence. Sorry Rex. We’re on to YOU.

19. To “important note” because I was the tresurer and had a seperate account setup where the money was collected and distributed from. ClubCub had no bank account and the money had to be collected some where until the event.

20. On a lower scale with the same impact as Bernie Maddoff.
    I am realizing just how they operate. Shame on me for even buying shirts from them. I wonder when they do a jock auction at an event, where that money goes to? I wonder if Scruff, Towne (DC) and any bear event wants to be associated with them now? I am really curious to see if they are made to produce PUBLIC records of their non profit status!! I wonder if the companies they use “to put goofy stuff on t-shirts” are being paid any royalties for that? Bet if they found out it would not be just a $100 check Rex, Dustin and all associates would have to produce.
    I wonder!!

21. In reading the comments I am baffled why Dustin or any of the other guys involved in Wooftease/Club Cub have not said a word.Disappointed that the only things they can say is don’t believe, bla bla bla. Prove to our community that you have all the documents to back what you say. I hope Mr Enoch’s will be able to produce all documents as well. I know if it were me in this situation (which would never happen, I would be publicly displaying and defending or get an attorney to take on a case as I am sure that the Secretary of State will be getting a few letters form disgruntle party goers!

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23. OMG! There is no rock these two can hide under this community won’t banish them from! LOL I would slit my wrists before showing my face in public again! I hear international flights are cheaper now! I attended the first Club Cub event they attended and I could tell these organizers were full of “shadiness” and drama. Already bashing other bear events as they made their rounds at the breakfast tables asking for donations and shamelessly plugging their “bear wear”. I never returned and encouraged my friends to do the same. It does not surprise me this happened to these organizers, this behavior is dispicable and I hope the law prosecutes them to the full extent. Greediness never wins, and this type of behavior ALWAYS gets caught in the end…sorry guys, your ride is OVER! The group event is now, CANCELLED CLUB CLUB. See you all of you other guys in Orlando for the waterpark event!

24. If you must know Jeff does have receipts for every dime spent, given to Wooftease, and money returned to the sponsor in good faith, when the contract was broken by moving the party from his venue to a hotel. Because of the breach of contract and splitting the event Jeff left Club Cub, honored the contract with the local venue and put on a party. The venue then donated the money in their name to Project Halo. Now since 2009 continues to be brought up. What happened to the certified check from Jeff, which was given to Wooftease, for Project Halo after the event, was over? Project Halo stated they never received it. Let us take it back a bit further. In 2008 guests were charged $10 for the pool party which only costs $1500 and no extra money was made off of it. Why did that amount change in 2009? Guests were charged $20 for the same pool party and it was claimed in a news interview, Wooftease had to pull money out of their own pockets? Really? What about the $1500 in donation money that Jeff gave you to cover the cost of the pool party? Where did the $20 per person go? Now lets get back to 2010, the year in question, when so much money was charged and a “token donation” of $100 was offered to Project Halo. Exclusively put on by Wooftease, a run package for Club Cub cost $60 and individual parties cost $20 each. Top that off with donations and fund raisers and it seems like it would be a lot of money. How much did cost change that guests needed to be charged so much more for the same event? I did not attend for obvious reasons so I can not say if it was a good party or not. That is not my concern. False accusations against Jeff however are. Hopefully when this is over the truth will come out and our community can move on.

25. THE EVENT SUCKED! $20 PER PARTY ….I HOPE THAT THE $60 I SPENT WENT TOWARD HALO’S $100 CHECK….WTF…OUR GAY COMMUNITY NEEDS TO JOIN IN AND PLAN SOME FUN EVENTS ALL YEAR LONG….THAT DO NOT DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF YOUR CHECKING ACCOUNT…..

26. Brian & Jeff, Rex & Dustin…all shady scumbags. About time they got theirs. I laughed my ass off reading this whole thing and checking out the links. Forwarding to all of my friends now. Thanks for the laugh!

27. I am disappointed in the way this has played out but there had to come a time that it would. I gave three years of my time, dj services and equipment to make Club Cub a fun event with the understanding it was for charity. I can see that I have been played for a fool along with many others. I even bought pool party tickets, because it was going to charity. I hope and pray that everyone in this community bands together to stop this insane behavior. I have already heard of many reports of this organization trying to continually bury Jeff and I hope he will produce the receipts and documentation of their accusations.
    I am not out on a witch hunt, I am here to give support to an already disjointed community. I will however make it clear to any organization that I donate time to, that they produce the proper paperwork to really show they are who they say they are.

28. The IRS will be after them next. I am sure they don’t pay any taxes on the events. Never seen on any of the sites “PLUS TAX” Shame on you guys for using dogs in your adds to make money on us! I hope you get pissed on! No more WOOF for you!

29. club cub gives us “gays” a bad name. this is awful for the community.

30. Where should I begin? This group has bad mouthed every other group, even after hawking their t shirts at all the bear events. They have treated many of the organizing bear clubs of these other events horribly and spread viscous rumors that were just fabrications in an effort to discredit bear events so people would attend the Club Cub and now the Bear Daze event in Orlando. I guess things really do come back to you based on your actions. I would love to see some Jail time for some of them myself. SHAME ON YOU for claiming to be non-profit.

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34. This is just sad. It makes the community as a whole look really bad and Rex looks like a major ass in that interview. And then he blames Jeff (which I don’t really like Jeff, but at the same time I don’t believe that he would do something like that) which is just low. Why don’t you just take some responsibility Rex? And where is Dustin during all of this? I feel that he is a victim just as Jeff is…I think that Rex is the greedy one here (Dustin to me seems like he doesn’t really know whats going on most of the time, but he does stuff to keep Rex happy)

    I will stick with Real bear runs next year (where I know that my money is going to charity and not into one persons pocket)

    And on another note, Those “shirts” on wooftease are not even creative, they just take someone elses design and turn it into bear or cub related stuff. And did you see the tasteless Dog bones with “what charity” on it? I hope Rex does some Jail time for this.

35. This pair has been nothing but a wedge, driving the community apart. In 2009, they held a bear event SPECIFICALLY to compete with a bear event being held at the Charlotte Eagle. ON THE SAME WEEKEND.

    They put on a bear night at a Charlotte bar THE NIGHT BEFORE the normally scheduled (long running) bear night.

    They scheduled Club cub THE SAME WEEKEND as the Virginia Mountain Bears bear event.

    They also have an upcoming Orlando event scheduled for the SAME WEEKEND as a preexisting bear event.

    I guess there is nothing wrong with this, as long as you consider the quality of these events; consider the PURPOSE of these events; and consider where your dollars are going.

36. To Ryan Stanfield (The first commenter). Any chance you can post the e-mail exchange you had with the Club Cub organizers. Let’s see how they responded to you when they asked for your opinion.

37. I think that it is totally pathetic that Rex and Dustin and Club Cub had the nerve to advertise that they were supporting Project Halo and give them a measly $100.00. Non Profit’s survival depend on the commitment from donors and the community. Think of how much good the funds could have done if this was a legit cause. I attended Club Cub back in 2008 and never went back because the whole thing seemed very shady. I hope they rot in hell!!!!!!

    I wonder what they are going to do with the funds from their so called Bear Daze at Disney? Such a ripoff. There was already a well run bear event down there and they had to go muddy the waters and with their event which is a scam. They do absolutely nothing to unite our community, instead they try to fracture it and cause drama.

38. Is everyone shocked at what has taken place? Really? Seriously? This has been going on for a long time. Rex has got a criminal record longer than my arm. He has been run out of Ohio for doing the same shit he is doing here, where next? Hold on to your wallets and Wake up America they’re coming to a town near you. Let me guess the next thing is they will dissolve Club Cub, dissolve Wooftease and then say they are backing out of Bear Daze and letting Troy(hanging out with great folks Troy) from Decadent Ducks run it while they go pack up all their belongings and figure out what other country their going to while waiting for the under the table check from Bear Daze to live off of for another year. DO NOT GO TO BEAR DAZE, SAVE YOUR MONEY OR IT WILL GO IN THEIR POCKETS. Dustin, dude you really made a mistake getting involved with that crook, I hate it for you. But honestly you turned out to be just like him a thief, liar and scammer. Wake up and run you got a lot of growing up to do. Rex you just need to go, far far far away and figure out who your next victims are and how you can live off them. Another gay community ripped into shreds by scumbags.

39. Since my name has been brought into this, all I have to say is that hiding behind an anonymous comment is quite pathetic. If you have something to say to ME, then feel free to identify yourself or email me directly about your concerns.

    I will not discuss my company business dealings in an anonymous forum. I encourage anyone who has questions or comments about MY involvement with Rex and Dustin to contact me directly and not anonymously, and I will answer any and ALL question posed of me, and then you can feel free to republish my responses in public if you wish.

    ALL anonymous comments need to be taken with a grain of salt – for all we know, ALL of those comments could be coming from the same person, or small group of people. Why don’t you identify yourself if you feel that you have valid comments- what are you anonymous posters afraid of?

    Decadent Duck Events has a stellar record of running incredible events for our guests for 15 years, and in each of the past three years have turned checks over to our charity within days of the events end, most recently giving in excess of $3,200 to Food For Friends, a project of NO/AIDS Task Force in New Orleans.

    Again, I am happy to answer any and all questions, but I will not address anything that is brought up in a public anonymous forum.

    Troy Richardson
    Owner, Decadent Duck Events
    http://www.DecadentDucks.com
    802-280-7741 anyone can call me anytime with questions as well.

40. In a recent meeting between myself, project halo, and Jeff Enochs a mutual agreement was reached that this all was a misunderstanding. We all wish to move forward and put this behind us.

41. Troy I can understand your angst about your name or events being associated with this horrible situation. That being said when you associate and align yourself with a group that clearly has brought this kind of bad publicity it is bound to happen. It is hard to distance yourself when it is being publicized on forums such as facebook or here. I also agree that people should address you personally and maybe use their own names as they see fit.

42. Wow because Dustin who has not said a word up to this point says it was a misunderstanding it’s all ok? So you ate telling me that you ripping off the general public not living up to your end of deals, fraudulently advertising that you are a non profit, giving T shirts at your run (you own a t shirt business for God’s sake) is all a misunderstanding. What kind of fools do you take us for? Rex calling people theives on tv was a misunderstanding? I am sorry but you cannot expect anyone to honor your request based on a misunderstanding. Wow!!!!

43. This is just craziness…this is not a simple misunderstanding…how dumb can you be? As Antoine Dodson would say, “YOU ARE REALLY, REALLY DUMB”…get a freakin clue men…a simple apology could have gone a long way. But instead you turn on each other and blame one another for your own mistakes and greed. That is not cool. Maybe you should go to prison as some posters have suggested and run, “BEAR-CON” in your local prison. But wait, you’d enjoy that too much! So just shut up, take ownership and take what you get like real men and get to the bottom of your real issues!

44. Dustin and Rex as a couple, throw boring, pathetic, shameful event called club cub, watching all this unfold while those two sleeze bags squirm – PRICELESS!

45. So I take back what I originally said about Dustin possibly being the victim too. After his response on here about it all being a “misunderstanding” I can see that he truly thinks that we are all idiots. And I’m sure after Rex got on the news and called Jeff a thief to all of Charlotte, Jeff is really going to sit down with you guys and be like “Oh its all a misunderstanding! Dont worry about it!” Dustin and Rex should just move out of Charlotte and take their thieving,drama asses with them.

46. RYAN STANFIELD

    Have you ever run an event where you were trying to raise money? Do you know how difficult it is to balance the price guests pay with the price the event organizer has to pay for things. What appears cheap is usually in the name of keeping the costs to guests low. It is also hard to get a new event off the ground, and takes years before all the kinks are worked out. It’s ok to be critical about an event, but don’t take offense when every single idea or complaint you lay out isn’t taken into account. No event organizer can please everyone.

    With regard to logos being used in the t-shirt company, you should read up on the trademark laws before you throw out a comment about licensing.

    Specifically refer to the sections about parody, and the many many legal cases where a trademark holder has lost their trademark infringement case against someone who is obviously doing a parody of their trademark.

    Parody is a defense to trademark infringement. The defense is that there is no likelihood of confusion because the parody will not be taken seriously. While it must initially bring to mind the original, it must be unique enough to be clear that it is not the original nor connected with the original, but is a parody, a humorous take-off on the original.

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.

47. RYAN STANFIELD

    Have you ever run an event where you were trying to raise money? Do you know how difficult it is to balance the price guests pay with the price the event organizer has to pay for things. What appears cheap is usually in the name of keeping the costs to guests low. It is also hard to get a new event off the ground, and takes years before all the kinks are worked out. It’s ok to be critical about an event, but don’t take offense when every single idea or complaint you lay out isn’t taken into account. No event organizer can please everyone.

    With regard to logos being used in the t-shirt company, you should read up on the trademark laws before you throw out a comment about licensing.

    Specifically refer to the sections about parody, and the many many legal cases where a trademark holder has lost their trademark infringement case against someone who is obviously doing a parody of their trademark.

    Parody is a defense to trademark infringement. The defense is that there is no likelihood of confusion because the parody will not be taken seriously. While it must initially bring to mind the original, it must be unique enough to be clear that it is not the original nor connected with the original, but is a parody, a humorous take-off on the original.

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.

48. bambette,

    You said “I warned many people after dealing with your mess at Bear Hunt and also Club Cub that you are a flake”

    Care to elaborate with specifics. These seem to be more baseless accusations. Show the proof, give us details and maybe your comment can be taken a little more seriously.

    You also say “and yesterday IT WAS PROVEN ! beyond a shadow of a doubt!”

    What was ‘proven’ exactly? So far this case has been tried in the media, and not in court, so nothing has been proven!

    If I file a complaint in court against you that you murdered my dog, does that prove that you did it? No, in this country I think we have to give evidence of wrongdoing and prove things IN COURT, not in public anonymous forums before they are “PROVEN” and your comment only serves to inflame the situation.

    Please enlighten us about what was proven?

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.

49. bear,

    you tried to dispute the charge on your credit card because you had a bad time at an event. Do you also try to request your money back at the movie theater when you don’t like the movie?

    On what grounds could you possibly think that your credit card company would offer you a refund? You paid for a service, the service was rendered, and you got what was advertised. Just because you didn’t have fun, or like the event doesn’t entitle you to a refund.

    It’s a free market economy, so you have free choice to decide not to attend the event next year.

50. WoofTheives,
    You say, “You can’t claim to be a non-profit tax free group and actually keep all the money for yourself. ”

    Do you have proof that money was kept for themselves? Do you even understand how fundraising works? Let me see if I can put this in terms you’ll understand: I put on an event, and I have to pay for certain items that cannot be donated. Then I charge you to attend the event. Three things can happen, 1. Not enough people attend the event, and I lose money so I pull money out of my own pocket to pay the expenses, 2. I break even and there is no money to give to the identified charity or 3. the event makes money and I have funds to turn over to the charity.

    Can you point us to any place where event organizers guaranteed a donation to a charity, or a minimum donation to a charity? Were you responsible for the accounting on the event, so that you know for a fact that there was a profit on the event you mentioned?

    Additionally, do you know for a fact that all of the record keeping and accounting has been finalized for an event. It sometimes takes 30, 60 or 90 days after an event to get and pay all the bills, and come up with the final numbers so you can figure out if you made a profit or not.

    Please provide proof of your claims that they kept all the money for themselves

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously..

51. Trademarkinfringement,

    You also need to read up on the trademark laws before you throw out a comment about ripping off logos.

    Specifically refer to the sections about parody, and the many many legal cases where a trademark holder has lost their trademark infringement case against someone who is obviously doing a parody of their trademark.

    Parody is a defense to trademark infringement. The defense is that there is no likelihood of confusion because the parody will not be taken seriously. While it must initially bring to mind the original, it must be unique enough to be clear that it is not the original nor connected with the original, but is a parody, a humorous take-off on the original.

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.

52. Important Note,

    You were smart to not write a check to someone personally for an alleged donation to a charity.

    How many other people were not as smart as you and wrote checks to Mr. Enoch personally.

    Does Mr. Enoch have any proof of funds that he collected and that he actually turned those over to the event organizers?

    This seems like blatant fraud if it is true, as opposed to the alleged fraud that is being levied against Rex and Dustin’s organization.

    Is anyone investigating Mr. Enoch? Is anyone outraged by his behavior? Doesn’t seem like anyone is in this forum.

53. Woofsleaze,

    You are baffled that someone would not defend themselves in a public anonymous forum? Really?

    Whether you are right or wrong in a situation, trying to defend yourself against baseless accusations is impossible. Let everyone on this forum put out PROOF from their perspective that something illegal has been done, and then maybe someone would have something to defend themselves against.

    Do you know whether Rex and Dustin have an attorney working for them at this time?

    While I am sure that the Secretary of State would love to have a chat with you about how disgruntled you are about a party you attended, but I don’t think that throwing a bad party is a crime.

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.

54. FU REXNDUSTIN,

    Can you give examples of ““shadiness” and drama” that you mention?

    Are you seriously attacking someone for trying to make a living? You say they were “shamelessly plugging their “bear wear”.” Is this a crime? I think that I see shameless plugging of products about a million times a day on TV, radio and in person. Is a company trying to sell a product supposed to sit in the corner and wait for you to approach them? I think not – it’s called marketing and sales. They were trying to sell a product. Get serious.

    You say “I never returned and encouraged my friends to do the same.” It’s a free market economy and this is your right and choice – isn’t America a great place.

    You also say, “It does not surprise me this happened to these organizers” What specifically is “this” that you refer to – have they been convicted of some crime in the last 48 hours that everyone in this forum but me is aware of?

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.

55. Brain Helms,

    You say, “If you must know Jeff does have receipts for every dime spent, given to Wooftease, and money returned to the sponsor in good faith”

    Could Mr. Enoch please produce these alleged receipts. Saying it in a public forum like this is not proof.

    Could you be more specific about what contracts were broken? Do you have copies of these contracts that you can show everyone?

    If Mr. Enoch left Club Cub, then all monies collected in the name of Club Cub should have been turned over to the event organizers. Was this done? Is there proof? Can Mr. Enoch post copies of the alleged separate bank account statements that he allegedly set up for the organization?

    You say “What happened to the certified check from Jeff” Can Mr. Enoch prove that said certified check ever existed? Proof please.

    You also say “What about the $1500 in donation money that Jeff gave you to cover the cost of the pool party?” Where is the proof that Mr. Enoch gave over any funds?

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.

56. Responder:

    I see you make no comments about Club Cub claims of Non-profit. The direct quote from their website

    “Club cub is organized and operated for charitable…purposes withing the meaning and limitations of section 501(c)(4) of the Internal Revenue Service Code… and in agreement with the State of North Carolina Non-Profit Corporation Act.”

    A quick check with both the IRS and the NC Sec. of State office (http://www.secretary.state.nc.us/corporations/) reveals both statements to be completely false.

    So tell me, Responder. Is it right to claim you are a Non-profit, when it isn’t true? It is right to claim you have tax-exempt status, when it isn’t true?

    Additionally I’m not sure Club cub would qualify as 501(c)(4). The law specifically prevents social and recreational activities from receiving protection.
    Perhaps they should have read the law, before claiming false protections under it.

    Actual quote “IRC 501(c)(4) provides for tax exemption of: Civic leagues or organizations not organized for profit but operated exclusively for the promotion of social welfare. “

    The general concept, however, can be expressed as follows:

    Organizations that promote social welfare should primarily promote the common good and general welfare of the people of the community as a whole.

    An organization that primarily benefits a private group of citizens cannot qualify for IRC 501(c)(4) exempt status.

    Reg. 1.501(c)(4)-l(a)(2)(ii) provides that social and recreational activities are not social welfare activities.

    However, if a substantial part of an organization’s activities consists of social functions for the benefit, pleasure, and recreation of its members, it may qualify for exemption under IRC 501(c)(4) if it is primarily engaged in social welfare activities.
    For example, a garden club that instructs the public on horticultural subjects, holds public flower shows, makes awards for horticultural achievement and also conducts substantial social activities qualifies as a social welfare organization under IRC 501(c)(4) as it is operated primarily to bring about civic and social improvements. Rev. Rul. 66-179, 1966-1 C.B. 139.

57. Club Corrupt,

    You say “I am sure they don’t pay any taxes on the events.” Can you prove this, or is this another baseless accusation?

    You also say “Never seen on any of the sites “PLUS TAX”” You really need to brush up on your knowledge of the sales tax in North Carolina. Sales tax is not applicable to services, like events. Many companies also have a “tax included” policy where the sales tax is included in the price of the item and there is nothing illegal about this. This is very common in a vendor or flea market environment where making change of pennies, nickels and dimes to account for the sales tax on top of the item price is impractical.

    If you have some proof of sales tax not being paid, please provide it.

    Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.

58. Bye Bye Rex & Dustin and Krew,

    You say, “Rex has got a criminal record longer than my arm.” I assume that you have seen this record – so could you please post it for all to see?

    You say “He has been run out of Ohio for doing the same shit he is doing here,” Can you provide any proof of this baseless accusation?

    You also say “the next thing is they will dissolve Club Cub, dissolve Wooftease and then say they are backing out of Bear Daze and letting Troy(hanging out with great folks Troy) from Decadent Ducks run it while they go pack up all their belongings and figure out what other country their going to while waiting for the under the table check from Bear Daze to live off of for another year.” If you think that the proceeds or profits from a single event are enough to live off for a year, you are sadly mistaken. Additionally, I think that the reputation of Decadent Ducks is sufficient for everyone to know that where Decadent Ducks is involved there would be no “under the table” check to anyone.

59. Woofsleaze,

    You say “when you associate and align yourself with a group that clearly has brought this kind of bad publicity it is bound to happen.” Bad publicity happens to everyone, no matter who you are, you are going to have detractors who throw accusations against the wall to see what will stick. There has been no proof of wrongdoing so far, has there? Only a trial in a public anonymous forum.

    You also say “It is hard to distance yourself when it is being publicized on forums such as facebook or here” Did Troy say he was trying to distance himself from Rex and Dustin? I don’t see that anywhere in his response.

60. Criminal Records? A quick google search brings these up.. Do a LITTLE homework, Responder, because you seem to be bringing little to the table.

    This first record shows his arrest for Assault

    http://www.fairfield-city.org/courtrecords/searchresults.cfm?sort=name&startrow=1&show=50&casetype=all&firstname=rex&lastname=mumea&companyname=&casenumber=

    These next records require you to type in his name in the search box, Rex Mumea but reveal his court cases for unpaid debts

    http://www.courtclerk.org/comp_name_search.asp

61. Do they pay taxes on their T-shirt sales? That website also does not have any taxes listed. You seem to be asking a lot of questions but not providing any answers.

62. My god you bears are full of DRAMA!!

63. The whole issue is not a big deal.
    People have been accused of wrong doings, a sad lil news story ran on a slow news day, now the folks involved will have to resolve it.

    Let me break it down for u . who ever went to a party or a Run because they gave to charity? No one! And we didnt buy our wooftease shirts Because some of the cost may or may not wentto charity. We just wanted a funny shirt.
    …and its wrong to talk down about a run? Hell thats my favorite part. It should be listed on the event list, we all do it, “look at this sad hotel” “this is supposed to be breakfast”,”my 80$ paid for these tired lil decorations?”, “StarTrek?,Seriously?”. U just dont do it publicly.
    As for rex, he is shady, its too many people yelling smoke on that one, for it not to be some fire. Dustin’s reputation and personality has suffered from day one with Rex, we all remember good sweet dustin when he was with blondbear.

64. Response-I think you are still missing the point about the bad publicity in my comment. Yes bad publicity happens to everyone. If you feel that looking up a companies NON PROFIT status and finding out they are not one, is throwing out a false accusation you are mistaken. I contacted Carolina in the Secretary of States office to make sure I was not missing anything. There are no records of Club Cub being a NON PROFIT.
    I hope that the SOS office does continue to pursue this issue and bring it to trial in a public forum. You don’t reward bad behavior with a slap on the wrist and say don’t do it again. It was clearly stated on the web page they were a 501(c)(4) and Project Halo was the beneficiary.
    You mention that shadiness is OK for someone trying to make a living in a response. Really? Credit card companies will refund on pending investigations, especially if the product was done under false pretense. With the Secretary of State investigating this I doubt it would be difficult not to.
    Parody on T shirts is always going to be there. Deliberate Trademark use and altering it without permission is not a good thing for them. I am almost positive that they have not received permission for at least one of the logos. MLB does not play when it comes to this. We tried once to use their logo for a pee wee league and their response was a definite NO. I wonder if they are aware that there are several T shirts on WT site are using that same logo? My guess is probably no.
    The biggest issue with all of this, is the fact that no apology or remorse has been given to the community. People gave money to go to an event for the past three years. Two of which was under the umbrella of giving to charity. Yes I am sure part of that money was given back in the form of entertainment, food etc. But at the end of the day, if they have nothing to hide, they should should be able to produce all records (like you are asking of everyone who has said things about them) since they are a non profit organization.

65. WOW, lots of responses that are all from the same person, using “you say” and “Spewing” in almost every response. Here’s my take – Lied about being a non-profit – Two years of events and they offer the charity a $100 check?. All these events scheduled to compete with other events? It all comes back to you. I really hope that the charity winds a judgment. I hope they get charged for fraud in claiming to be a non profit, and I hope they get out of the event arena.

66. LOL i like that the responder above (that has different names) always ends with the same thing…

    “Everyone in this forum needs to learn more about what they are spewing, and stop trying to spread baseless rumors. If you’ve got some facts about wrong-doing, let’s see them – post them online and create a link to them we can all see. Until that is done, no one will take YOU seriously.”

    Nice Try Rex! Next time you might just want to use the same name or maybe just not end all the comments in the same way LOL

67. Club Cub/Wooftease joins up with Decadent Ducks…

    What’s that phrase about birds of a feather again?

    Sorry, Ducky, but as long as you have Rex and crew as partners, your “events” will never be seen as legit–just some twinks trying to use a covermodel to muscle in to bear events and take bear money. That having been said, maybe you and Club Cub/Wooftease *are* meant for one another…

68. About 501c4 status…

    Dallas Bears & Texas Bear Round Up; Columbus Ursine Brotherhood & Bear Camp; Carolina Bear Lodge & Bear Hunt; Bears of Central Florida & Bear Bust are all set up as 501c4 organizations. Under these rules donations are not tax deductible, income from “bear run” events and operations is not taxable as personal income to the organizers.

    A new organization has up to 27 months from the date the organization is created to file. Many organizations need that length of time to raise the $850 filing fee. However many new organizations are currently being advised to wait for a software tool from the IRS called Cyber Assistant in 2011, which will assist with preparation of the application for tax exemption. This online tool will have significantly lower filing fees (expected to be $200).

    It would seem there might not be records of Club Cub being a non profit if they are still organizing their filings.

69. About the criminal record as long as your arm, “Warrant Withdrawn Req.Prosec.” Usually means the charges were dropped. That and a speeding ticket, let those with out speeding tickets cast the first stone.

70. Having attended all 4 of the Club Cub events I recall the first (2007) was a back yard pool party. The second (2008) was $10 at the door and included beer and burgers. The third (2009) was $11 online pre-sale (I’ll guess the odd number was to cover credit card processing fees) and $20 at the door with more kegs and more food. The most recent (2010) the weekend package price was tiered at $50 for a month, then $60 for a couple months, then $80 if you registered the month prior. And the list of events included, the pool party with food and beer free (cash bar), two dance parties (cash bar), two after hours with booze included, two world class DJs, two live performers at Sunday brunch, etc. If you didn’t want to buy the package you could pay as you go at the door. That is a comparable line up to many of the bigger runs that charge $50 MORE than the $80 last min. registration fee. Bear Bust = $120 TBRU = $115 Bear Pride = $120

    Bear Bust is in their 20th year, they have national sponsors with approximately 500 attendees at $120 and their charitable donation is $2000. So that is $5 a person. This is the first year Club Cub had a package price, no national sponsors, about 100 attendees and offered a dollar per person donation. Considering they need to raise $850 to file for tax exempt status, if they held those funds back. That comes out to $9 per person they raised.

71. Something about all this that doesn’t sound right is all the fury about the Secretary of State and reporting any wrong doing. The Secretary of State’s office regulates solicitation. Buying a ticket to an event is not the same as soliciting for donations. Solicitation involves a donation with out remuneration. Buying a run package or paying entrance to a party is an exchange of $$ for services.

72. Jackson,

    I was never trying to hide the fact that I am the same person who posted the “response to…” posts – I cut and paste the same comment at the end of every post I made because it applies.

    I merely posted my response to each of the earlier posts individually in order to avoid one long post.

    If I were trying to hide the fact that I was posting under multiple names, I could have been a little more creative than that.

    Isn’t Anonymous Posting Fun ? You never know who is behind the keyboard.

    And I am not Rex. I am merely someone who wants to point out that there are a lot of baseless accusations being thrown around, and proof is required in order to PROVE what you are saying.

    And to those of you who complain that I am bringing up questions, but not bringing any answers. I don’t have any answers. I am not involved with HALO or WoofTease, and I don’t even know most of the people involved in this. I am just trying to point out that there have been so many posts with accusations and no proof.

    I guess that no one has heard that in this country you are innocent until PROVEN guilty ?

    I stand by my comment(s) – show me the proof.

73. Unfortunately for the guys who run club cub or wooftease or what ever else they are involved in. The information that was said to me by Carolina in the SOS office was it seems fraudulent that this company advertised an event as a NON-PROFIT organization. It is public record as to when they actually filed. If it was prior to their posting this event I will apologize, if indeed it was after the fact, you are hosed. You guys offered what you may have thought, was a fair exchange for the price paid and you site many other organizations in your comments. The fact of the matter is, with those run they also feed you several times. The hotel offers a continental breakfast or buffet when you sign up for a room, NOT just a club cub event. Your pool party consistently runs out of beer and food in nominal at that event as well. How many folks actually attended this event this year? Even at 150 folks paying $50 a piece that is $7,500.00. Now I know folks also paid the $60.00 and $80.00 amounts not to mention those ho only went to the pool party. How come your DJ’s charged you this year when in an earlier comment your other DJ gave his service and time as gratis?
    You mention the national runs having sponsors, I saw that you also had sponsors for your run. Did they not have to pay any money for advertising etc. You mentioned on your site that volunteers helped keep costs down, thus enabling you to give more money to your charity, what happened to that?
    I am not upset that it take up to 27 months to file for non profit status etc. I am upset that this whole thing of giving $100.00 to a charity because they called you out. What if they hadn’t, you would have been saying “Sweet” we did it again?
    You guys own a t shirt business why not make 100 T shirts and sell them for Project Halo and give that to them. Your T shirts cost above the national average and they are not a silk screened shirt so I am sure production costs are minimal to you and I am also sure you do not pay any royalty to the companies logos you have altered.
    The last thing I have to add is Dustin made a comment as to it was all a misunderstanding. what exactly does that mean? I address this to both Dustin and Rex as I am sure they read this. I think it’s time they at least explain a lot of things.

74. Response to Jackson-
    So let me ask you this, if I came to you and said i was putting on a party and the charity was for Juvennille Diabetes and in two years you thought I was giving money to them. It comes out in the paper and on the news that JD has 18 hours of tapes and numerous e-mails that THEY did not even know about this. Then because JD whistle blows on me and complains to the Secretary of State, I show up with a check for $100. You would not be suspicious? I think anyone would. Troy mentioned that after this one event he gave over 3K and his event only happened less than three weeks ago. Theirs happened almost over a year ago for one event and two months for the other.

75. I think woofsleaze pretty much summed it up in his last post. You are guilty (or ummm wooftease is). How can you charge SO much for a run for 2 years and then have nothing to give to the charity? If you were not planning on giving any money to anything then you shouldnt have said that it was going to charity. You should have just run the event. But you are guilty because you only gave the 100 bucks when you got called out on it (and did it in the nastiest way possible) so there is no “innocent until proven guilty” here.

    Dont say you are running an event to benefit charity if you dont mean it.

76. since we are on the subject of scammers in charlotte. be cautious when you donate money to campus pride events/fundraisers. it’s all a scam/lie as well.
    those two need to go as well.

77. This is simply tragic that grown men (and I use that term lightly) are even in the vicinity of all of this drama & mess .. All personal opinions aside about my negative experience at the event, In the words of Truvvy “There’s a story there” and it will all come out in the wash! Instead of mudslinging and bringing more negative attention to “the community” The parties involved should stop trying to throw former volunteers under the bus and take ownership of your actions! “That’s All”

78. I don’t know where this anonymous poster above comes off saying Campus Pride is a scam. q notes did a survey in the spring of a bunch of local non profits (http://qnotes-launch.newspackstaging.com/6782/infocus-community-non-profits/), campus pride was one of tehm. that info is here:
    http://qnotes-launch.newspackstaging.com/images/20100515/pdf/infocus_cnp_ataglance.pdf

    According to that info — which is all public info since campus pride IS a REAL non-profit as opposed to wooftease and club cub — Campus prid’es leader Shane Windmeyer made among the least salary in the whole list of paid organization leaders.

79. Campus Pride Not A Scam-I agree. This forum is about the dealings with Wooftease/ Club Cub and those associated with them. I want to thank you for sharing your information with the group and maybe this will encourage those we are discussing on this forum to to the same, if they have nothing to hide.

80. I would like to say that events like Campus Pride, and the Decadence Ducks have outstanding reputations and should not be included on any more of these comments. I know what it is like to be pulled into something that you had no dealings with, so lets not do the same thing with these innocent organizations.
    I know I cannot stop the harsh words and tone of these posts, but I am asking for the sake of the community and the people involved that we please stop posting and move on before anymore damage is done to our city’s reputation.
    Project Halo, Dustin Slate and myself sat down for a meeting and agreed that we would not escelate this issue any further. Project Halo and ClubCub have reached an agreement that honors the donation promised, and after reviewing all 2009 finacial records Dustin has agreed that there were no misappropriation of funds. Any further action is a result of the State of NC and no longer involves Halo or Myself.
    I now ask that everyone please, please stop posting comments on here and we start the process of healing.

81. Dustin, Jeff Enochs and I sat down last week. Although I have not received a monetary donation from Club Cub I have agreed to drop this matter. Dustin and I have agreed that a donation will be made to Project HALO but the terms have yet to be finalized. Dustin also agreed that Jeff Enochs stole nothing from Club Cub and Jeff had all the documentation to prove this.

82. Auntie Venom… What a great name…

83. Thank you both Jeff and Project Halo for your input but the fact of the matter remains, we have yet to hear from both Dustin and Rex. They did something wrong and even though you can say let’s move on, I still know people that did not get one of their T shirts, several of them. You may give them a get out of jail free card, but they need to be accountable for their actions and admit to this community what was done and not just say it was a misunderstanding. I think we are owed this much by them.

84. Thank God,
    A voice of Reason from Project Halo & Jeff E . Let this die and if there is any further legal actions, be they civil or criminal that will take its own course. Woofsleaze , I received my shirt in the mail last week perhaps you should approach Club cub separately on that one .. I think your frustrations are valid and have been heard.. Lets let our legal system handle this and be humane.
    Perhaps we can put our own energy into living a life well with integrity, remember this life is way to short !

85. TO: Jeff Enochs,

    Thank you for your kind words about my (and other) organization. Decadent Duck Events has a 15 year history of providing quality events to the community and we plan to continue this tradition well into the future.

    We have always operated in an environemnt of transparancy, and anyone who wishes to examine our fundraising efforts or has questions about how MY organization operates is welcome to email me personally for answers.

    Thanks Jeff,

    Troy Richardson
    Decadent Duck Events
    troy@decadentducks.com

86. To Everyone Else,

    I wish to say that anyone, at any time can still question me personally about my affiliation with any organization, and I will answer. No matter who I choose to partner with, these decisions are not made lightly or in haste, and a multitude of factors are taken into consideration.

    Decadent Duck Events has been in conversations with many different groups about helping run various events, and yes, this includes Dustin and Rex – this is our business as a Full Service Travel Agency and Group Event Planner.

    Our business model has many different facets to it, and they cannot all be explained here, but everyone can be assured that if I put my company name on something as an Event Sponsor, that absolutely everything will be above board and that everyone can expect the same level of quality event that they have come to expect from my company, all while accounting for every dime of income and expense. Where a charity is involved, anyone at any time can ask me for a copy of my records showing incoming donation sources, and payments to the various charities we support.

    I want everyone to be better educated about the events the choose to patronize. Please pay close attention to the various ways that events say that charitable donations will be made. Is there an express promise that a percentage of your ticket price will be going to said charity, or is it a portion of ‘profits’ or even a portion of ‘proceeds’ (total money collected)? Pay attention, because event costs are astronomical these days, and there isn’t always a profit at the end of the day to give a donation. It’s important to know what you are being promised with regard to charitable donations. I think that everyone has the best intentions in this regard, but not every event is profitable.

    To avoid any confusion at my events, we always specify the exact percentage of an items cost that is going to the charity, whether it’s raffle tickets, class or tour tickets or direct donations. We have learned in the past that basing our donation on profits does not always work in the charity’s favor. This is a lesson that other organizations need to learn on their own as well.

    With regard to the timing of my donations, I am able to make my donations days after an event, because they are not tied to profits, so I do not need to do any post-event accounting in order to find out how much we are going to donate. We’ve been doing this for 15 years, and we’ve learned a lot over the years on how to run events that are in the best interest of everyone involved.

    Lastly, should Decadent Duck Events form a partnership with any organization to promote a particular event, you can be certain that my firm will have complete control over the collection of funds, payment of bills and final accounting. Again, we’ve been doing this a long time, and we are set up to do this better than most.

    I again want to thank Jeff Enoch for his comments about my organization, and I hope that everyone has the chance to attend one of my events and see how Decadent Duck Events runs events that are fun for everyone involved.

    Thanks again,

    Troy Richardson
    Decadent Duck Events
    troy@decadentducks.com

87. Wooftease is in BIG trouble 90% of their t-shirt designs are trademark and copyright infringements

    Intel, Matel, and about 20 plus companies have been notified that club cub/wooftease are infringing on their designs. Those massive companies are going to smash them

88. …. And yes I know quite a bit about trademark laws. SOME could be considered a parody, but most are blatant infringement

    So far the legal departments of 20+ companies are looking to either 1) demand removal and sale of infringed designs 2) seek monetary compensation, 3) sue them outright

    I went threw their store and notified each company that they took artwork from, emailed their legal dept, along with the offending graphic, as well as sending them a link to the woof tease store. These emails were all sent out in the past week. I’m fairly certain many legal departments will start contacting bthem asap

89. Hey Anon – since you seem to have a lot of time on your hands, how about contacting Bank of America and finding out who authorized Jeff Enochs to represent them in his vindictive crusade? if you review the actual complaints you will see that he is writing all of his carefully orchestrated scheming on bank letterhead email, signed with his corporate title, and on company time…. and presumably any monies he claims to have funneled in the name of Club Cub went through his own BofA accounts… I definitely think his bosses should be notified of all of this drama, he is apparently representing Bank of America in these dealings.
    Also – how about letting us know how far back his involvement with this Rhonda from Project Halo goes? And is this the original Project Halo? or the bitter off-shoot Project Halo that was forced out? Jeff played her like a fiddle. I hope all her tax records are in order as the spotlight of inquiry will be sure to shine that way as well.
    Dustin & Rex are obviously not blameless in this whole story, but I know them – at worst they are guilty of boot strapping a start up company without the resources or knowledge to do everything perfectly, and maybe they will owe some taxes or a donation, whatever. They were never trying to defraud anyone. These men are not criminals. Just horny. “Penises before Profits” is probably a good summation of the general business plan from what I can see.
    As a long time member of the Bear community, I am ashamed to say that collectively we have become everything it was supposed to be a response against! Popularity contests and clique-ish-ness, Body Beautiful and Pageants, petty jealousies and power politics. It’s so sad.
    Yes – Club Cub was dumb not to change their designated charity after obviously having probems based on that relationship in 2009; but it was a bear run they were selling – the attendees went to spend the weekend covorting with the bears – no one even knew about any charity, it was not a featured component, just the standard gay-event “donate the left overs” disclaimer. And the month after the event apparently they are…and it wasn’t much, because even though the gays are quick to complain about the hotel or the service or the amenities – they sure aren’t willing to pay for better. oh yes, i did say it – Charlotte is Cheap! and Bitchy!
    And still has a big chip on it’s shoulder.

    Congrats – in the span of one year this segment of our community has seen the failure of The Eagle; the expulsion of Charlotte’s representatives on the Carolina Bear Lodge board, and now this controversy, to name just a few. Ask yourself if you were at the center of one or more of those upheavals – if the answer is yes, then how about you shut the fuck up for a year, and let some others try to do better because you SUCK!

90. Jeff Enoch, If you were soliciting funds and depositing them into a separate bank account as you have said you were doing, why don’t you put an end to all of this and publish the bank statements. Publish a copy of the checks where money was turned over to the organizers and be done with it.

    You work for the bank for God’s sake, I’m sure that you can’t claim you don’t have the statements any more or some bull like that. Get them from the bank and publish them.

    That is if this mysterious separate account ever existed.

    Let’s put an end to this entire thing – publish the proof.

91. If anyone has questions about my documents, please contact me directly. I will not publish account information in public form.

92. Keeping it real.
    Number one. There is absolutly no complaint sent anywhere by me at all. The complaint came from Project Halo and was not sent by me. Second, there is no Bank Letterhead email. That just does not exsist. If I send a couple emails from my work PC, that does not include my work in this action based on my title. Third. Rex and Dustin agreed on using the second bank account as much as I did, and had access to withdraw at anytime, and forth, my boss has known about this for weeks and has supported me 100% since she too has seen my records.
    And one more thing, Rhonda and I have worked together for a couple of years. I have not had a chance to speak to her between both events until recently. So we have worked on no scheme. I hope I have answered your concerns, and once again would like for anyone to contact me directly as I have absolutly nothing to hide. This issue is not about me at all and is just misdirection.

93. I posted what I thought was my final statement on 9/20 hoping to end all of this. Evidentally, that wasn’t good enough. I am now recanting every word I said.
    I had an interesting meeting with Dustin Slate yesterday. He wants me to issue a statement apologizing for the “harm” done to Club Cub. Are you freaking kidding me?! Dustin, this is my response to the statement that I signed yesterday where I promised I would contact you on 9/23/10. If you and Rex are going to use this forum to spew your lies and pathetically try to defend yourself then so will I. Dustin, I actually felt sorry for you. I thought you might be the victim but that’s no longer the case. You were obviously well coached yesterday but I’m no dumbass. The $100 check you left on my table is still there and will not be cashed. I’m not attending your Pity Party ever again. Everything from here on out will done through the attorneys and/or the court system. You and Rex will have no further contact with me regarding this issue. I have already wasted too much time listening to your excuses and poorly executed and edited documentation.

    Let me try and set the record straight once and for all. Jeff Enochs contacted me in Aug simply asking if I had received a donation from Club Cub. This is the first time I had heard from him in over a year. Of course, I had no idea they had a party much less listed Project HALO as the beneficiary. This same thing occurred in 09. I received No Money from Club Cub in 09. When I emailed Rex in regards to this year’s party he responded that they were on the road and would be finalizing their accounting and that I should receive a check sometime in mid September. I then received a voicemail from Rex stating that he had seen thru the internet that Project HALO was associating themselves with the rugby team and since that was the case he would be sending me a “token donation” and would be sending the remainder of the funds set aside to a different charity. THAT is when I made the decision to not wait till mid September and I contacted my atty. I was advised that based on my documentation that there appeared to be fraud, misrepresentation, trademark infringement, etc… I filed my complaint with the Secretary of State. I contacted the news media. And trust me, those won’t be the last agencies that will be notified. So Rex and Dustin, you want to play hard ball? Bring it on!

    And in regards to the “bitter off-shoot Project HALO”. What the hell is that? I founded Project HALO 13 years ago. I actually PAY a CPA to handle my accounting. I actually PAY the State of North Carolina each year for a charitable solicitation license and Project HALO actually IS a 501c3 non profit. Project HALO’s tax returns are public record so help yourself.

94. So why is this story still up? At this point all it is doing is damaging everyone mentioned and dragging in people who weren’t even involved. For those that were thinking of moving here and read this Id like to say…..”Welcome to Charlotte!” No reason to sugarcoat it. This shows the true colors of our community. Rather than taking the high road we turn on one another, we point fingers, we bring in innocent people and organizations. Ive lived here 12 years and used to be very active in the community. There is a reason I am no longer involved. I understand that most lead boring lives and this is a great gossip piece, but Im betting we all have better things to do in our spare time.

95. I’m wondering the same thing

96. do you not think that maybe the story is still up because — oh yeah that’s right is a NEWS story! And, golly it must still be relevant because people sure do keep commenting… 95 comments now. That’s a lot. News stories just don’t disappera because people don’t like them, and if the parites who created the news didn’t want it to be news they should have kept their mouths shut and not filed a complaint with the state govenrment.

97. Keepin it Real:

    The CBL is out of control. The expulsion of Charlotte’s representatives is just the tip of the iceberg there. I know of at least three cities who have enough burned bears living in them–all of whom are discussing the idea of forming smaller clubs outside of Rob Gauthier’s and the CBL’s grasp. It’s too big and its leadership is too cliquey and A-bearish. Rob loves to talk about inclusion, but he spends more time excluding anyone who he disagrees with. In that case, it’s not a Charlotte thing but a CBL thing. The only way to fix it is to vote the old board off and start fresh.

98. Thank you Project Halo for being honest about your dealings. I think it has brought an outpouring from the community and that was evident from the last donation drive at Sidelines. Jeff I am thankful that you kept all the receipts and informed your boss about what has been going on, so if there is any finger pointing it can be defended. Dustin and Rex I hope that you also have all your information together so that, if this was truly a misunderstanding that you can show the community that it was. It is unfortunate that this has happened, but it needs to be resolved. If wrong doings are found, then those people need to find a way to make amends to the community.
    Danny

99. Drama, Drama, Drama!

100. Obviously struck some nerves there huh? Pathetic!
     Is anyone really reading what these people are writing? Look at Raging Rhonda’s response – can you imagine the nerve of any non-profit turning up their nose at your $100 check? She’s intimidating and threatening to get more money – that’s called EXTORTION! Look at the history of Project Halo people – she is not the sole “founder” – she’s been embroiled in controversy before to the point of splitting the organization. Imagine her calling or emailing you becaue you didn’t donate what she thought you should. Pretty scary. She’s calling her attorney, and filing state complaints over what? What the hell does she think she’s going to get from two guys making tee-shirts in their apartment for god’s sake? The satisfaction of ruining their lives? Bravo Raging Rhonda!
     People – Read the documentation and emails that are part of the state complaint. It clearly shows Jeff Enochs posturing and leading Rhonda to these mistaken conclusions, and doing it on the Bank of America email system, with his corporate signature as if representing the bank. If your boss truly knows and is supporting this behavior I’ll bet her boss doesn’t, and right up the chain of command. It is one of the first tenets of the business world – do not use corporate “letterhead” (email, phones, copy machines, etc.) for your personal projects exactly because of situations like this and how it’s perceived. You’re actually going to try to side step that issue while your cronies are emailing unsubstantiated rumor and vicious gossipy character assasinations all over the country to Rex & Dustin’s business contacts? and you don’t think you deserve the same? Bank of America is going to be doing damage control on this soon.
     Club Cub is not a fundraiser for Project Halo, or any other charity – it is a social networking event which announced it’s intention to donate some portion of final profits to Project Halo in this case (actually 2 cases – the 2009 & 2010 Club Cub events), the same as many bar nights, drag shows, club events, etc. in our community.
     Ask yourselves why Club Cub ever got involved with Halo? It’s not even a gay organization. Because of the connection, initially amicable, with Jeff Enochs. Rex & Dustin didn’t even know what Project Halo was – As soon as it was evident that Jeff was perceived to be funneling money through his private accounts, soliciting money in unauthorized ways, for unauthorized uses, he was thrown out of the group…in 2009! All of this is the vindictive retaliation aftermath of his endless ego.
     By the way – Jeff continues his association with Rhonda and Project Halo even today, through his association with the Gay Rugby Team. Is that going to be the next target? next fiscal year is Rhonda going to decide that she didn’t get enough out of the Rugby Team? that they “promised” her more? and go after them?
     Charlotte – Tell Raging Rhonda to take the $100, say thank you, and shut the F up!
     Rugby Team – Tell Jeff “Endless Ego” Enochs to sever the ties with Project Halo before you all end up being the brunt of this extortion machine!

101. the expulsion of Charlotte’s representatives on the Carolina Bear Lodge board,

     I hope this is not meant to be me? I did not get kicked out, I left, Rob G and the rest of the crazy board didnt like change, they did want A lister attitudes, and I tried very hard to make sure everyone was welcome. I have successfully kept my dinners and other things going, and have a small web site to prove it :) Unlike the new VP I am here for the community, NOT myself or some self stroking group of A listers.

     http://www.charlottebears.com is the web site, and feel free to take a minute to visit it :)

     Hugs to all,

     Tor

102. Keeping it Real-I don’t think the issue was turning a nose up at $100. The fact that Club Cub claimed to be a NON PROFIT organization and throw that party as such and used that to get folks to come and donate their time, money etc. It was even stated on the site that if folks volunteered, Club cub could give more money to the charity.
     Matters not who or why a charity was picked or who was involved in picking it. Club Cub put on their site that Project Halo was the beneficiary. If people want to smear a “true” non profits name like Project Halo then I feel its just grasping at straws. If the state and IRS feels that Club Cub, Dustin and Rex was truly a non profit and acted as such, then this community owes them an apology. If Jeff is found of “EXTORTING” money then he needs to make restitution, but if not, we owe him an apology as well. If the state and IRS finds that Club Cub is truly not a non profit, I feel for them.
     Yes this is a lot of DRAMA but you have to ask why is it being brought out. Do we close our eyes to wrong doings and just walk by? Our community works hard to be proud. Why is is that we can just forget that folks paid, $50. 60 80 dollars of their hard earned money, volunteered their time and efforts so that others may have benefited. I am still confused as to why Dustin and Rex have not spoken about this publicly. Rhonda was forgiving to let this be a misunderstanding, it seemed that old saying, you give them an inch they take a mile seems to play in this scenario with her comments about Dustin. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty. If Rex and Dustin feel they are being wrongfully accused, why haven’t they come to explain their side? I feel as if they owe our community this much

103. Who are you kidding? pfft. there was not a person at Club Cub – any year – who went because some small donation of left over proceeds would go to a charity. They went for dick. period.
     And got plenty of it, I might add, while we’re keepin’ it real, for their $50,60 or 80 dollars. Again – while they were deciding if Club Cub as an entity could fly on it’s own with the possibility of making it a permanent non-profit organization in fabric of Charlotte’s gay community, as was mentioned previously in this thread, any organization considering this has 27 months to raise the money and file the paperwork. I doubt that will happen now, all this drama has certainly killed that. But Club Cub the party has been very successful, growing every year, and will grow on and up, obviously out of the seething cesspool of Charlotte gay power struggles. But that’s the way it’s always been here – seethe away…

104. Rex like you and the tube of lube in a pool you are a slick asshole. You and you slummy business has no place in the gay community. Legit people that do fundraising for non profit groups get a bad name because of assholes like you, are the bad apple. Dustan I feel sorry for you. One can only hope that as you both are on Social Security that they also catch up with you for unreported monies made.

105. the worst thing rex could have done is responded to any of these postings, you are just digging your grave you scumbag.

     Please stay far away from Orlando and Ft Lauderdale. People overheard you Rex during Club Cub bashing Tidal Wave and I quote “only creating Bear Daze to take people away from Tidal Wave.” wow, your such a loser. The organizers of Tidal do an amazing job every year and for you to come down to Orlando to try and steal business away from them is unforgivable. They should just ban the wooftease “krewe” from even buying Tidal Wave tickets this year.

     As for Ft Lauderdale, you scumbags were seen down here recently hotel shopping to try and bring back WOOF Fest, which is an old event here in Ft Lauderdale that has faded away over the years. You are crazy if you think the bears in Ft Lauderdale are gonna fall for your scams. STAY AWAY!

106. one of the local bars up in charlotte should have a “Burn your Wooftease shirts night.”

107. Expulsion of Charlotte’s Representatives on the CBL Board,

     I would clarify that I was not expelled from the board as a Charlotte representative. In the CBL board meeting held in March of 2010 I submitted my letter of resignation to the board due to several unethical activites and drama I observed during my time on the board. Since the President and majority of the rest of the board was unwilling to correct this behavior, I could not be associated with this group any longer.

     I suggest anyone attending a bear event, or any event for that matter, to research the organizing organization to find out if they are legit and what their tax status is. Yes, it may take over 2 years for the paperwork to go through for your non-profit status, but the CBL operated for over 15 years, collecting money from members for membership and money for events they threw and were never registered as any kind of official club or organization in North or South Carolina, and never filed for their non-profit status until 2010. I encourage everyone to know the club you want to join to make sure you dont get taken for a ride and that your money is going to the right things.

108. everyone should remove and ban their facebook pages.

     -Rex Wooftease
     -Wooftease Krewe
     -and their Wooftease pages.

     you are being oust by the bear community!!

109. I think it is funny that people keep commenitng on this story. so many people want it to go away but even those involved keep commenting and adding fuel to the fire.l if people would just be quiet the story would quiten down. hahaha omg peope are crazy. this is really good entertainment tho

110. In response to allegations about Bear Daze or Rex and Tidal Wave. We put together Tidal Wave as a party for everyone to come and not be afraid to take off their shirt, feel ashamed for who they are or what they looked like. We decided this year to add another element for our fifth year anniversary and realized there is a competing event that is following suit. This is a free country and folks may say anything they want, as is evident from this forum. If a competing event wants to throw a party, or bad mouth another event, we cannot stop or lose sleep over it. We can only strive to make this event a fun time and continually better it’s content and maintain it’s value. We may not all see eye to eye on things, and speaking for myself I know I am full of faults. I wish no ill will for Bear Daze or Rex or anyone saying bad things, if indeed they did. I can only say that I will continue to promote Tidal Wave in a positive manner and strive to make that weekend one that we will be a memorable one.
     DJ Danny G

111. Wow, and you people think us drag queens create all the drama. This is entertaining. I need more popcorn!

112. WoofTease, looks like you guys are in great company with Bears of Central Florida and the Parliament House both of which are in major financial trouble. Good luck with Bear Bust.

113. Everything this group puts their hands on turns to crap. Sorry if groups like Decadent Ducks wants to affiliate with them, then Decadent Ducks will be called into question too.

     Let’s get this straight. Wooftease puts on Club Cub which they advertise as a non profit and an event done for charity. Both of which are not true. If they didn’t take two years to make a donation of $100 they probably would not be in this mess. I mean let us call a spade a spade here. This isn’t a matter of taking time to pay bills and follow a time line of 30-90 days. This event happened for over two years under the disguise that it was to raise money for Project Halo. What you think about the women in charge of it really doesn’t matter. The facts of the case are it took them two years to cut a check for a measly $100. Yea I don’t care it is a charity, I’d turn it down too and investigate them.

     As if that isn’t sham enough, the event promised pass holders t-shirts and did not deliver. That alone is grounds for a refund and charge back on the credit card. How pathetic since they claim to own a t-shirt company yet can’t even muster up the money to make shirts for their own event.

     Now the two con artists – one with prior charges and one about to get some – want to move into the Florida market. To begin this they partner with Bears of Central Florida who are under investigation by the Attorney General’s Office, the IRS and has charges pressed against them too. Two peas of a pod as the saying goes.

     Next month they are partnering for a jock auction at Parliament House. Parliament House is bankrupt, foreclosed on, and under the control of a receiver. The owners of Phouse have a long history of not paying their bills (gee the Wooftease business model), running a filthy property, and a list of liens and warrants filed against the owners for non-payment of bills. Sound familiar? All of these FACTS can be found online because it’s all filed in court paperwork.

     So here we are with Bears of Central Florida having tricked people into paying $119 for a run pass to their event and then because their money is tied up in legal battles had to move the events to the phouse. Anyone knows that to get into phouse it is $10 tops so your $119 run pass isn’t even necessary. Plus will the receiver really want this tragic event there anyway? What happens if the receiver decides to shut the place down before Bear Bust/BC3/Wooftease Jock Auction/Corruption Fest. By the way the rumors that the owners are still in charge of phouse, hold the liquor license, still make decisions about the place. All false, the reality slap can be found here:
     http://or.occompt.com/recorder/eagleweb/downloads/20100518555.pdf?parent=DOC644S1345&id=DOC644S1345.A0

     Let’s see what happens when Wooftease tries to pocket the money from their infamous and over used “jock auction” as a sham to pocket more money that was raised for “charity”

     Rex and Dustin claim to be uniters of the bear community so they decide to buck up against the biggest bear event during gay days simply for personal reasons. It won’t work. Tidal Wave Party is too big and too organized and too good an event to be concerned about their shady operation.

     As Rex and Dustin cling to parody laws to save their shirt business ironically some of the designs have disappeared from their website. I highly doubt that is coincidence. I guess the big companies are squashing them. Finally!

     Rex was 1/2 right. We all hate you and we do win. The damage has NOT all been done though. Hang on boys it’s gonna be a bumpy ride.

114. would this be consider gay on gay crime

115. It’s only a matter of time before it all falls apart. All together now…..nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey GOODBYE….nah nah nah nah…

116. INTERESTING Dustin finally speaks

     http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/notes/club-cub/response-to-fraud-allegations/10150273055530198

117. Over the past couple weeks the Organizations that I founded, WoofTEASE and Club Cub, have fallen under public scrutiny. These organizations were started when I was at the age of 23 to benefit the bear community by offering an outlet of creativity and by providing social events that were not previously offered in our home state. Over the years as both have grown there have been issues that needed to be handled. We feel we handled these situations in the best interest of the future of the organizations. While we proceeded forward, we did lose relationships along the way. We tried to move on, however we feel that the ramifications of these failed relationships will be something we have deal with for some time. Rather than rush to judgment we ask that you hear us out and base your relationship with us from your own experience, both personal and professional. At no time have we ever misrepresented ourselves or tried to gain a leg up by doing anything unethical. We realize that this explanation will not heal all, but we are open to questions.

     “In 2009, Club Cub had an event in Charlotte and without making it public, a contribution was made to Project HALO. This donation was acknowledged in email by the Project Director.

     For the same event in 2010, the Club Cub website indicated that, “*a portion of proceeds from Club Cub go to benefit Project Halo.”. The accounting for this event has been completed and it has been determined that based upon the income received by Club Cub, and the expenses paid, that there was a profit of $113. Based upon this fact, Club Cub is donating $100 to Project HALO. That check was delivered to Project HALO on September 22, 2010.

     We welcome putting an end to this situation, and at this time feel that based upon the income received from the event we have fulfilled our obligation with regard to our donation to Project HALO.

     We welcome any questions addressed directly to us in email, and we will answer all inquiries. Anyone asking a question and receiving an answer can choose to publish our response in any public forum they feel suitable, but we will not debate or answer questions in any public forum, especially an anonymous one.

     We admit the information for Club Cub and 501(c)(4) Non Profit Corporation status on our website may have been misunderstood. The statement is taken directly from the by-laws and indicates we are following the rules of a non-profit. Being approved as a non-profit is a lengthy and time consuming process, and we are still waiting for approval. However, we were not soliciting donations for our own non-profit entity. By offering a portion of our proceeds to a charity, we do not feel that we were misrepresenting our event. We accepted no funds without a product or service being rendered. Given this fact, no contributor could claim they made a donation to any non-profit entity. Our non-profit status and any description thereof was a general description of our company and intentions. We were not soliciting donations for a non-profit. We were selling sponsorships and event tickets. This cannot be considered donations to a non-profit regardless of the legal status of our application.”

     The donation we made may not seem like much, but we ask that you consider that this was our first year putting on full run. We had a total of 5 entertainers from various parts of the country. The operating expenses of this type of run can add up fast. Our ticket prices ranged from $50-$80 which is considerably less than the cost of many runs that we are being compared to, however we feel that we delivered value for the price paid.

     Although there has yet to be an investigation, we are fully prepared to share our documents with a competent governing official at the time it is requested. We ask that any business relationships past, present, or future please consider asking us questions before you make a decision as to whether or not do business with us.

     Through many events that we have participated in we have happily donated our time, energy, goods, and services in a variety of ways. We hope to continue to do so in the future. An example of this is at TBRU in 2010, we organized and executed a jock auction/raffle that resulted in raising $1300 for two charities in the greater Dallas area.

     Once again, we intend to move forward from this and continue to do business as we always have. We are fully aware that everything we do will be under a microscope and again will answer any inquiries about who we are and what we do.

     Sincerely,

     Dustin Slate

118. I’m just a bit confused. In Dustin Slate’s post on club cub, he says

     “In 2009, Club Cub had an event in Charlotte and without making it public, a contribution was made to Project HALO. This donation was acknowledged in email by the Project Director.”

     But the Fox news report quotes Rex Mumea as saying there was “no money left over” for 2009.

     Also, Rex is Quoted as saying “Jeff Enoch Took funds that didn’t belong to him in your name” (“your name” being project Halo)

     Did these funds magically appear, and were donated back in 2009? Did this get resolved by Jeff Enoch returning the funds to Club Cub? Did Jeff Enoch really abscond with these funds? Thank you for your comments Dustin, but there are more unanswered questions.

119. Never mind, I found a response, I retract my previous comment

120. Here is the response I found on Club Cub .com

     “When it was discovered that Jeff Enochs was soliciting funds and asking for checks to be made out to him personally, he was told that his affiliation with Club Cub was over. It is our opinion that Jeff Enochs, posing as our Treasurer (a position he was never assigned to) solicited donations from various parties, confirmed by him in an email, in the total amount of $3500. Jeff Enochs confirmed these amounts in an email to us on July 8, 2009. These funds were never fully accounted and are not included in the accounting above. Jeff Enochs has claimed (in public) that there was a separate checking account set up for the purpose of collecting funds on our behalf, but to date, the statements from that bank account have not been provided to us as proof.”

121. As a sponsor for both 2008 and 2009 I provided money to Jeff Enochs for Club Cub as he was the tresurer, so I find it odd that this would all work fine one year and not the next. If he was not the one collecting money then why was he sent my way both years. Also if there was an account set up for Club Cub that was not Jeff’s seperate acocunt, what was it? I too got information from Jeff in 2009 regarding the money that was raised and I can tell you that there was never that much. How much did Dustin and Rex actually use of that money that was raised? Seems that paying for a pool party would be rather expensive since there was free food and beer paid for by ClubCub. I have seen the posting above on the Club Cub site and it all sounds like an attempt again to smear the wrong person. Alot of it I know from dealing with Jeff in a business aspect not to be true. You have to be careful becuase you have just opened yourself to a very big law suit and for one hope that Jeff does persue this course of action. You have really wasted a lot of time trying to make someone else look bad when you have enough to worry about. He after all is not being investigated by the Attorney Generals office or the IRS.
     One other thing, what happened to the $300 dollar donation that Jeff said he gave Dustin and Rex after the event was over becuase they said they could not provide one themselves? If they say they gave a donation, where is the proof? Where is the $300 Jeff gave you that I personally saw?
     Just sounds so fishy that things keep changing..

122. Oh yeah, I thought that all this was regarding 2010… Jeff was nat a part of 2010, so why did it still go wrong?

123. Well I guess that latest statement from Rex will force me to respond. The difference is that my response is that it is based in fact. I am not just saying that something happened, I have actual records and documents to prove these things happened.
     Fact number 1, the separate bank account that is in my name has been a main source of interest. This account was created in 2008 and used for that event with no questions before Rex was a part of the Club Cub event. When 2009 came around the board agreed to use it again. On Feb 20 this same account was used by Rex to create the Club cub pay pal account. I have in my bank statement two setup deposits from this transaction. They show as (Pay Pal Des: Verifybank ID) one for 18 cents and one for 7 cents. If I was not authorized to use this account then why do I have Club Cub deposits made by the very people who say I shouldn’t. Also Dustin had a check card to the account for almost a year where he could make any purchase when needed. All four board members had this access. There was never an account setup in Club cubs name with any bank as we wanted to save money on monthly fees.
     Fact number 2, It was stated that neither Rex nor Dustin had any knowledge of what I was collecting in sponsorship or what was in the account at any given time. I provided constant updates every month and if you look at the statement made on the Club Cub site and pasted above, they have already said on June 8 2009 that I had emailed them what they say is the amount. How can you say that I didn’t share any information with you and then say that I did? If you know me and my other organization, we have a meeting every single month to talk about cash in and cash out for over 2 years now..
     Fact number 3, it states that I had raised $3500 dollars and it’s unaccounted for. Here is what we have from sponsors and our start up fund. The $3500 includes the sponsorship, and the tent rental that the Eagle had purchased at Club cubs request. It should not be included in Sponsorship money collected.
     Start up = 400 this includes all bar nights and money raised with Jello shooters.
     Sponsorship = 250
     Sponsorship = 400
     Sponsorship = 100
     Sponsorship = 200
     Sponsorship = 250
     Sponsorship = 250
     Sponsorship = 400
     Sponsorship = 250
     Now if we add all the sponsorships and start up fund together we get $2500 dollars. Where did all that go since we are talking about numbers now? $1500 was given to Dustin and Rex on June 10 2009 the record number on my receipt for that is CC2350500 and it is clearly stated in my receipt that they got this money for the pool party advance payment to the Ramada. That leaves $1000, and $400 of which was returned to the Charlotte Eagle as they demanded sponsorship back due to a breach of contract. I have that in a statement from the Club manager on paper. Now we have $600. These are my expenses for the decorations at the Eagle for that weekend that were purchased early June. $32.02, $70.55, $58.60, $55.58, $19.96, $10.70, $26.20, $21.45, $17.04, $210.00, $25.70, and $8.54. That’s a total of $556.34, leaving $43.30 after the event. We received a refund from the station rental place for $18.00 and add the $0.01 in interest we have $61.31 that was given to Dustin and Rex on Aug 10th to close out the account. I have each receipt for each cost. Rex and Dustin used most of the money raised for the pool party and I was in charge of the decorations at the Eagle just like the year before. I don’t understand why I am still under a microscope when even Dustin said to my face that there was nothing that looked out of the ordinary.
     And finally fact number 4. I was not removed from Club Cub because I was taking checks. I had been doing that for two years and even putting the cash raised at bar nights in that same account, I was removed for questioning how business was being done, and standing up for an agreement we all had made. I didn’t let personal hatred of a bar rule the way the business preformed.
     If anyone has any questions about anything, please contact me. I have personal statements from my sponsors, and from the Charlotte Eagle that what I said above is correct. I have all receipts for everything that was purchased or paid for since I was indeed the treasurer for the second year. People have asked that I post bank statements online; I can’t do that since it is against the privacy law and bank policy. I will however share any information in person. I just hope that this can rest with me since Club Cub is being investigated for dealings done in 2010 with the charity and not 2009. This year was brought up only as a way to take some of the heat off of the board that ran the 2010 event. I hope that I have satisfied any questions.

124. http://www.facebook.com/ClubCub
     I like how some of the guys who made comments have never even read this. Town Nightclub in DC is continually running their ads. I think that most of us need to send out the message that we will not support anyone doing business with these guys. Be it a bar, bear group etc. Why would anyone reward bad behavior? I will post e-mails of some of the groups that are continually supporting bad behavior

125. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf
     please fill out and send away

126. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f3949a.pdf
     please fill out and send away

127. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty ?

     “Bad Behavior” is not illegal. Why don’t you stop stirring this up until something has been PROVEN ?

     It really sounds like this is starting to venture into some type of personal vendetta instead of a legal matter. Why are you out to ruin their business whether they are guilty or innocent?

     Let the Secretary of State and the IRS do an investigation, and if something is PROVEN, then you can talk about how terrible they are all you want.

128. Good Afternoon,

     My name is Charger (Nicholas Baatz). I am the promoter for DC Bear Crue, one of the largest Bear Happy Hours on the East Coast. We currently hold Bear Happy Hour @ Town Danceboutique every Friday from 6pm-1-pm in Washington DC, with an average of 400+ Bears a week.

     Until now I have not made any public statements because the investigation has not been completed. I have made the owners of Town Danceboutique aware of this issue.

     I cannot speak for Town Danceboutique but I can speak for DC Bear Crue. In the number of times I have worked professionally with WoofTEASE, having attended Club Cub 2010 as a patron, and my personal interactions with Dustin & Rex, at no time have I experienced anything unethical about their business practices. I will continue to monitor the situation but will NOT debate who is “right or wrong” in an anonymous forum.

     If you have proof that WoofTease or Club Cub have somehow committed a crime then you should turn over that proof to the proper authorities. Accusations are not proof. The truth will come out in court.

     We should be acting as a community to build each other up. Not tear each other down. The way some of you have been handling this brings shame on us all.

     If you have specific concerns you may contact me through the following email.

     info@dcbearcrue.com

     I wish you all the best.

     Charger ~ DC Bear Crue

129. For the record I am not out on a personal vendetta against Dustin/ Rex /Wooftease or Club Cub.If I was I would be on this forum every day. If I ask folks to band together and ask the pertinent questions or ask the guys involved to come forth with answers, I feel I am entitled to. Yes, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. That does not mean we should still do business with those individuals during this process. Do we put an accused thief in a bank to work until he is proven guilty?
     Charger, you mention that we should be acting as a community not tear it down. I agree with you so why not post a few pics on the screens of bear happy hour of kittens and puppies from Project Halo?
     I am also thankful that your experience has been pleasurable with Wooftease/Club Cub folks. Unfortunately from the outpouring on this site you are in the minority. You mention that we should build the community but yet you did not point out how putting on competing events (and not only one or two) is a way to build a better community. They have done that, including against a party during Club Cub 2009 that was a Club Cub sponsored event on their website. I have decided to listen to you and I will not speak in this forum anymore. I just want folks to see that this is not about Dustin and Rex, Wooftease or Club Cub. It’s about doing what you feel is right. If I went to a concert paid money for a ticket understanding that this would benefit a charity, only to find out that after two years of going to said concert, my money was part of a $100 donation! I would be asking the same questions. It’s about NOT sitting down and taking it, because it’s a misunderstanding. Maybe you should put a Project Halo pic on one of the screens for Bear Happy Hour with their website instead of plastering Wooftease all over the place.
     Thanks for the time folks good luck with the fight!

130. TAKE THEM ALL DOWN, track them down — I heard they were always shady and have stolen other..!

131. Count me in as part of a group that will not participate with any event or group that does business with WoofTease. Enough has already been seen and proven to question any group that affiliates with them.

     They were confronted on the news and Rex was dumb enough to talk to them. The story he gave on his own accord and words has since changed. Dusting put out a nice plea, but again all lies. Rather than focus on the issues at hand and that Wooftease is accused of they attempt to throw a former treasurer under the bus and blame him for a lack of donation in 2009. That’s bad business practice. Sorry.

     Rex has a long history of criminal charges that date back to Ohio. That has been posted and also proven. This isn’t the first time he behaved in a way that isn’t so “community” focused. That information is already public record and fact.

     It is easy to believe that they did not honor the contract with The Eagle. What has not been said yet is that Dustin was let go from his job there so of course there is a personal vendetta against them. Kudos to the treasure for not letting Dustin’s personal agenda get in the way of honoring a contract.

     Wooftease wants to work as a community. Well that is also a joke. They are the most divisive and full of themselves group. They are attempting to hold Bear Daze right over Tidal Wave Party in Orlando. They decided to hold an event the very same weekend as a well established event to build community? REALLY? They aren’t building community because again they have a personal vendetta against the organizers of Tidal Wave.

     So any group such as Decadant Ducks or Charger from DC Bear Cruise or BOCF or Parliament House are doing themselves harm by affiliating with Wooftease. The facts are here if you want to see them. If you want to be blind you are free to do that as well. But don’t be surprised when vocal people start to protest your events and business dealings as well.
     You partner with divisive shady people with hot tempters and you end up in the same boat they are in. There are plenty of groups out there who refuse to do business with these guys and are better off for it.

132. I forgot to add that I love how Dustin posts that on his facebook page so he can delete any comments that don’t fall in line with his. What a crook. Then to say we did donate and “without making it public?” If he wants non-profit status it should be public that is the major difference between for profit and non-profit. When your group is under a microscope you DO make it public. Shame on him for counting on the stupidity of others to not ask the tough questions and for him to prove what he says.

     Sorry Dustin you started this at age 23 with the best intentions and then met Rex. You got as greedy as Rex is and partnered with a known criminal. Your not 23 and your not as cute anymore. You can’t just wink and flirt and make this go away because you say so.

133. I know this is an old issue, and I had hoped by now it would have gone away. I just learned that Wooftease was not allowed at the TBRU vendor fair in March. I don’t normally stand up for a cause but this time enough is enough. I requested a refund, and don’t want to have anything to do with an event, that feels the need to decide for me what I should or should not purchase. If a vendor wants to they should be allowed, then let the participants decide. I have several Wooftease tshirts and I’m sure I’ll buy a few more. I think it’s funny, in just the few lines I’ve written so far, I’ve probably infuriated several people, and blood pressure is boiling. Typical and Sad really!

     In this day and age, seems like we’ve taken some baby steps forward and the future is starting to have a glimmer of hope for the gay population. How can we celebrate DADT and at the same time be bitter queens about stupid shit, that in the grand scheme of things really doesn’t matter. I would challenge some of these people to take some of this negative energy and put it to GOOD use!!

     Let the negative comments begin:

134. You are a sadbear indeed. No one goes to a bear run based on the vendors present. That’s just laughable. They have actually been banned from plenty of events because their jock auction is also one of their scams. They skim from that pot of money and events see through it. Kudos to TBRU for recognizing it and not having them back. I give credit to bear runs that stand up to these loosers. The organizers decide who vends and who doesn’t. If you don’t like it don’t cry about it like a sissy, just don’t go to the event. I’m sure TBRU will be just fine without you. Most other groups and events are envious of their numbers anyway. Your not going because of this and this has made me want to go, so it’s a wash. But I laugh at a little queen having a hissy fit because their $2 shirt company won’t be there. Order the crap shirts online.

135. @sadbear – really? your gonna cancel your trip to dallas over a tshirt? loser. Please NOONE is cancelling their trip to TBRU cause a shitty tshirt company wont be there, especially not wooftease.

136. @sadbear – the only “bitter queen” here is you honey. don’t get it twisted. speaking of “stupid shit” you refer to, your dumbass is cancelling your trip to dallas where over 2000+ bears attend because you can’t buy a crappy tshirt you could get online? don’t bother coming, noone will miss your bitter queen ass. im sure you could fly to north carolina and hang out with the woofcrooks and scam over some more helpless charities.

137. Sadbear is obviously a douche. Tbru is big on charities and helping the community they shouldn’t allow them back ever.

138. Sadbear has to be Rex or Dustin because they are the only two who will be sad Wooftease won’t be at TBRU ironing on stolen logo’s to cheap dollar store shirts. The vendor fair will be just fine without their iron running in the corner. TBRU took a huge step for the credibility of their event by joining the events who have banned this crap corrupt company from their event. Hip Hip Horray. I’ll be at TBRU ready to party.

139. I had a wooftease tshirt burning party yesterday. I encourage everyone to do the same. My partner and I had purchased a bunch of their crap years ago at a couple events, since then the logos have fallen off and the shirts have basically deteriorated in the wash. They have been sitting in a pile in the corner of our closet until yesterday when they were scorched on our back patio over cigars and burgers. good times.

140. I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and shit a better rebuttle than everything you can said Rex. This story is just the gift that keeps on giving. Its been like christmas all year since this news was first broadcasted. I hope it NEVER GOES AWAY until every last $2 dollar woofsleaze shirt is ripped, thrown away or burned into a million pieces. When we are through with you Rex, there wont be nothing left.

     It’s not that I hate you Rex, it’s like, uh, let’s put it this way, if you were on fire and I had water, I’d drink the water.

141. Rex defrauded a charity? This would be shocking or scandalous if it were anyone other than Rex. But to reiterate, it’s Rex. It’s also Thursday.

142. Had a shirt burning party out here in CA too. I love that this is what pops up when you search Club Cub hope it stays up top in the news so these losers are exposed fro the crooks they are. Loved reading about all of Rex’s prior charges for assault in Ohio. What a hot head and looser. Think I am gonna go to TBRU now.

143. People make me laugh…I rarely post on websites like this because no matter what you have to say, others will feel the need to lash back at your opinions, and then take it a step too far. Calling someone a bitter queen, or a douche based on an opinion other than your own. Hmmm So guess we all have to agree with woofcrooks, or cub, or ft laudbear because they obviously have to be smarter than all the rest of us. And realitysmack, bitter little queen…sadbear would indicate probably nothing little about him LOL

     part of the fun of replying to this post is just to see which one of your “douches” and “bitter queens” is gonna reply first!!

144. I love how these Woofsleaze loosers have been totally banned from all of the biggest bear runs. They have been banned from vending at the biggest runs like

     TBRU
     Bear Pride
     Tidal Wave Party Weekend
     Bear Week

     Then a ton of other smaller runs. They have been relegated to selling their iron on shirts at campgrounds. How laughable. Time to give it up.

145. TBRU has 1,240 registered attendees so far. Yea people are all broken up that Woofslease won’t be there ironing on stupid logo’s to shirts people was once and they fall apart. LMFAO

146. again I feel the need to laugh…doesn’t matter if TBRU has 10,000 registered attendees, is it really necessary kushchub to be so negative? Maybe if we talked about your business, and bashed you a personal level, or the fact your screen name has the word chub in it…what if I’m a larger man who is offended by that word. People on this site make me laugh, and I enjoy reading comments, we are all allowed to make…then after I’m done laughing, it’s will be my continued pleasure to point out, life is too short to CARE ABOUT STUPID SHIT!! =)

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