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I’m voting for neither Clinton nor Obama in the N.C. Dem primary. I was an Edwards supporter and I don’t feel as though either of the current candidates are the best Dems for the job.
However, I’ll vote for the Democrat come November. Clinton and Obama might not be the best Dems for the job, but a Dem in office is certainly better than any Republican!
I’m voting for Hillary. I like her energy and environmental policies. There is something about Obama that I just don’t like, have never liked. His lack of experience is also an issue for me. I had been supporting Chris Dodd but he dropped out. I was never an Edwards fan because I felt like he abandoned NC after his election to the Senate.
This is one Democrat that will vote for Hillary in the Primary and if she isn’t on the Democratic ticket in November, then I and many of my friends will jump the party line and vote for Sen. McCain. Obama is not experienced and in my opinion has many hidden agendas and with the very racist remarks made by his friend and Pastor, I have to ask myself…is this the man I want in office? I think not!!! Why does the media push this man? What is the reason? Hillary is clearly more experienced and like her or not, I think she is the best candidate. If not her, then Sen, McCain is certainly in line as the next most experienced and even though he is a Republican…I shall vote for him before letting that “snake oil salesman” Obama, into the White House. Come on people, wake up! Change? What change? Ask an Obama supporter about this and the only response you get is…”well, uhhh, check his website” What Change????
JC… I think it is absolutely deplorable for you to vote for McCain. After eight years of King George and his Gay Objecting Propagandists, our country needs a huge change. Whether Hillary or Obama (neither of which I particularly like among all Dems), this country will be better served by a Democratic president.
Democrat or Republican… I just want the best person for the job and just because Obama might be the Democratic candidate does not mean he is the right person for the job. The “man” or “woman” should not be the “party” nor the ‘party” be the “man” or “woman” for President. It should always be the best person for the job and I am sorry…Obama just does not fit the bill…and shame on our Democratic Party for not recognizing this. Would be buy a Chevrolet just because it’s a Chevrolet…some might. I buy a car based on reliability, cost and dependability, not just because it is a Chevrolet. Wake up and smell the coffee. We as a nation deserve the “best” possible person for the job and it is not Obama. Vote Hillary… in the Primary. or…the Democrats might see a vast crossover to McCain for the general election. I will if Obama is the nominee.
I think it is absolutely deplorable for you to vote for Obama just becasue he is a Democrat. Would you vote for Hitler if he was a Democrat? I hope not.
At this point I’m still in Hillary’s camp. I admire both and will vote for whomever gets the nomination. We desperately need change. Jumping to McCain is definitely not in the picture for effective change in this country. Four years ago when I heard Obama speak at the Democratic National Convention, I imagined a Clinton/Obama ticket with Clinton for eight years followed by Obama for eight. That would have been idea from my perspective. Unfortunately, this scenario has not unfolded and is unlikely at this point. Fortunately, they both will continue as driving forces in the Democratic Party in whatever capacity. For that we can be eternally thankful.
JC… are you really throwing “Hitler” and “Obama” into the same sentence? Of course, I wouldn’t vote for Hitler… but Obama isn’t anything remotely close to Hitler. Unfortunately, and you might disagree, the Republican Party has gotten this country into so much trouble. Bush and his party need to go. McCain might not be like many GOPers, but don’t think for a second that the rabid, radical right won’t continue to get hand up if McCain becomes president.
I just hope Hillary kicks butt in P.A. Tomorrow because all i keep hearing is how democrats will go republican to keep the Obama out i think more republicans have been voting in the deomcratic primary for Obama so that they can win with Mcain in November We all need to go out and vote for HILLARY
Bush has indeed been a bad choice and I agree, “change” is needed…but, at what cost? Again, I say… let’s vote for the most experienced man or woman for the job and I am sorry…it is just not Obama. A “Hillary, Obama” ticket would indeed be nice, but as stated above, it is not going to happen. Obama might represent change, this may be true…but so does Hillary and so does McCain and people listen to me on this… for me, if it ant Hillary, then I am going McCain. Again i say…vote for the “best person” for the job and lets hope it is Hillary…;)
I can’t vote for Barack. Just can’t. Aside from the inexperience issue he seems to be far to squeaky clean – it’s not natural. I don’t care that he’s black, but I do care that his two racist preachers are, that Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Louis Farakhan are… Given the way he completely mismanaged Columbia, SC and has all but stopped talking to the LGBT press I am forced to assume that he’s not an ally at all. I agree with JC. If I can’t vote for Hillary I will vote for McCain (begrudingly). At least I know McCain is a patriot – I wonder about Obama’s contributions from imams and mosques that get their funding from muslims in the middle east.
i believe Hillary is the best one for the Job there is just something not right about Obama
Poor misguided “EdwardsLover” believes that only the party can make a difference no matter who is at the top of the ticket. I ask this… Do we not want the best pilot when flying? Do we not want the best Dr. when we are sick? Do we not want the best teacher for our children? Of course we do…and it really doesn’t matter what party they belong too now does it? Of course, I would prefer to see a Democratic candidate for the office, however, I will not compromise my belief that Obama IS NOT the best for the job. Hillary…stick in there girl…GO FOR IT. I am behind you all the way.
If the “book club morons” push Obama to the head of the Democratic ticket, well then I have to ask myself this… who is best for the job?
Then I will have to vote for John McCain for the reasons JVM states above.
Read my blog: http://www.mygirlhillary.com
We need a President who sees LGBT issues as basic Civil Rights. We need a President who sees LGBT Americans as worthy to be included in the American Dream. We need a President who has proven her support for LGBT issues. We need a President who will support Civil Unions, giving our families the same respect under the law as every other American family. We need a President who will pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. We need a President who will pass Federal Hate Crimes Legislation. We need a President who will end the discrimination of the military Don’t Ask Don’t Tell policy. We need a President who will deliver Universal Health Care for All Americans. This President is Hillary Clinton.
I just do not understand the bashing of Senator on this site. Senator Obama was a steadfast supporter of LGBT rights when he was in the Illinois House, and he has been a steadfast supporter of LGBT issues as a United States Senator. He is also the ONLY candidate who constantly discusses the need to end homophobia in his speeches to straight audiences.
Have you ever heard Hillary talk about LGBT rights when she wasn’t at a gay fundraiser or in front of a gay audience? I think that says something. It is one thing to pander to us when no one else is listening. It is another thing entirely to show that you really believe in our community’s rights by taking a risk in addressing LGBT issues as a part of your everyday town hall meetings and speeches whether or not the audience is gay. Hillary also supports keeping half of the Defense of Marriage Act in place. Senator Obama wants to work to have this despicable legislation entirely repealed.
I hope everyone learns the facts before they vote in the NC Primary. There are differences between Senator Obama and Senator Clinton when it comes to LGBT rights … and those differences favor Senator Obama.
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So when is the North Carolina Debate?
Oh that’s right, Obama’s too busy for that, since 11-million people tuned in to the last debate and saw how horrible he is at actually discussing the issues. It’s one thing to give a speech that’s rehearsed for clapping points. It’s another to actually have a grasp on the issues, know your position on the issues, and be able to actually get things done! Hope is not the Solution! I want more than HOPE. I want Results!
See Hillary’s History of Support for LGBT Issues:
As I have traveled around the country during this Campaign, what I sensed in my heart has been confirmed – America is embracing its LGBT sons and daughters with an acceptance and understanding as never before. On the campaign trail, a father of a gay son will ask about ending Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. A woman will ask why she can be discriminated against just because of who she is. Sometimes they wait furtively for the crowd to thin and then whisper their confidences in a soft voice and sometimes they stand up proudly at town meetings and want me to share my views on how I will help lead the change to assure that this country fulfills its promise to everyone.
Let me tell you what I have been telling voters across America. I am fully committed to the fair and equal treatment of LGBT Americans. For seven long years, the Bush Administration has tried to divide us – only seeing people who matter to them. It’s been a government of the few, by the few, and for the few. And no community has been more invisible to this administration than the LGBT community.
I will change that. The best evidence of what I will do as President is what I have already done.
I am proud of my record as First Lady, as a U.S. Senator and as a candidate for President in working toward the fair and equal treatment of LGBT Americans.
I am proud that as Chair of the Senate Democratic Steering and Outreach Committee in 2006, I worked closely with LBGT community to develop a smart strategy that defeated the Federal Marriage Amendment. I am proud of fighting the FMA as divisive wedge politics at its worst.
I am proud to be a co-sponsor of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, the Matthew Shepard Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act, and the Domestic Partnership Benefits and Obligation Act which would grant the same benefits (including health insurance) to domestic partners of federal employees that are currently offered to employees’ legal spouses.
I am proud to have championed the Early Treatment for HIV Act, which expands access to vital treatment options for low-income individuals living with HIV, and fought to fully fund the Ryan White CARE Act.
I am proud that I hired a National Director of LGBT Outreach within a month of announcing my candidacy for President and to have openly gay and lesbian staffers serving at all levels of my campaign.
I am proud to have a National LGBT Steering Committee of over 135 that includes openly LGBT elected officials, Board members and opinion leaders on issues ranging from transgender rights, to HIV/AIDS, to “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell”.
I am proud to have marched in Gay Pride parades as both First Lady and as Senator and to have spoken in front of so many LGBT audiences ranging from the Human Rights Campaign, Empire State Pride Agenda, the Hetrick Martin Institute, PFLAG (Parents, Families, and Friends of Lesbians and Gays), GMHC (Gay Men’s Health Crisis), and the American Foundation for AIDS Research.
I am proud to have fought Republican efforts to demonize and marginalize the LGBT community, and I will continue to do that as President.
We have so much work to do. When I am President, we will work together to make sure that all Americans in committed relationships have equal benefits and that nothing stands in the way of loving couples who want to adopt children in need. We’re going to expand our federal hate crimes legislation and pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act and assure that they are both fully inclusive of all people. And finally, we will put an end to the failed policy of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell. Courage, honor, patriotism and sacrifice – the traits that define our men and women in uniform – have nothing to do with sexual orientation.
My father was a conservative Republican, who held very traditional views for much of his life. Yet in his last years, it was a gay couple who lived next door who provided much of the compassion and comfort he and my mother needed as he grew ill. And it was that same neighbor who held his hand as he died. If my father can move, America can move.
To each and every LGBT American, I say this. You have done so much to help this country understand your lives by simply being open and honest about who you are and living your lives with dignity. Thank you for your courage. It is time that we recognize your hard work. I know that this country is ready for changes in the law that reflect the evolution in our hearts.
America deserves a President who appeals to the best in each of us, not the worst; a President who values and respects all Americans and treats all Americans equally no matter who they are or who they love. I want to be that President. I want to be your President.
Obama does double-talk on Gay and Lesbian issues.
Remember Donnie McClurkin?
The Advocate, April 8 2008:
In October, Barack Obama’s presidential campaign invited Donnie McClurkin — a notorious “ex-gay” singer and minister — to participate in its Southern Gospel Tour event in South Carolina. McClurkin claims that homosexuality can be “cured” through prayer and that gay people are “trying to kill our children.” While Obama later claimed that he did not agree with McClurkin about gays, he had no problem giving the performer a platform to preach his bigotry, knowing that such views are widely held among the conservative Southern black voters whose support he needs to win the Democratic nomination.
Get a CLUE people! You are right, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HILLARY AND OBAMA! Hillary is a TRUE friend of the LGBT Community! Know your facts. Name one thing Obama has DONE for the LGBT Community? Actions speak louder than words, and I hear his actions LOUD AND CLEAR!
Want to see Hillary discuss GAY ISSUES ON NATIONAL TELEVISION? See her appearance on ELLEN:
Hillary on GAY ISSUES: On ELLEN:
Now tell me that HILLARY doesn’t discuss Gay issues in front of non-gay audiences. SHE WAS ON NATIONAL TELEVISION!!!
One time on national television (with a supportive lesbian host) is a far cry from repeatedly advocating for LGBT issues in stump speeches, town halls, and media interviews. Hillary just is not comfortable advocating publicly for our issues and repeatedly stumbles over the word “gay” when the topic does come up.
Why is that?
Sure … Senator Clinton will send her daughter to gay bars and surrogate actors and actresses to troll for our votes (counting on us to be star struck rather than to really look for substance), but will she really be there for us when it counts? As Melissa Etheridge so correctly put it, President Bill Clinton threw us under a bus with Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell and DOMA. Why do you think it will be any different with Hillary Clinton in office?
Obama sold out the LGBT Community back in October to gain the Black Evangelical Vote in S.C. he will sell us out when ever it suits him
It is amazing to me how many people will actually vote for Hillary considering that it was her husband who gave us “Dont Ask, Dont Tell” and the Defense of Marriage Act.
Lets not forget who were the first ones that were thrown under the bus during the first Clinton presidency.
As someone who marched in both NYC and DC against these measures it is beyond me that anyone could forget these pieces of legislation.
The willingness to get everyone to the table for a discussion about LGBT issues is not selling out. Barack has mentioned LGBT people in campaign stops everywhere from Washington State all the way to New Hampshire. Not just when he is in front of a gay audience.
Hillary has a hard time even saying the word, never brings it up in her stump speedh and was the last person who agreed to be on the LOGO discussion about LGBT issues, Barack was the first to agree to sit down for this interview.
So it’s acceptable for Governor Easley, a Hillary Clinton supporter, to use an anti-gay slur (“pansy”) while he is standing right next to her? Senator Clinton has said nothing to repudiate the remark, by the way.
oh give it a break doug. barack obama is a liar who won’t admit it. we know clinton is a clinton. better an evil we know than an evil we don’t.
I agree with JVM Obama is a wolf in sheep’s clothing he talks a good game but will sell the LGBT community down the river in a heartbeat. Also he went to that church with that preacher for over 20 years he must feel the same way he just does’nt have the courage to admit that. Also that preacher was considered a part of his family he had that man baptize his children and pray with him and his family before his decison to run for president and now he is denouncing him too so he will sell out anyone if he can gain something.
I could not more strongly disagree with the comments that Rev. Wright made this week and the snippets of his sermons that have been played again and again on You Tube. Sen. Barack Obama also rejected those comments (and Rev. Wright himself) in very strong terms during a press conference yesterday morning and previously renounced Rev. Wright’s most extreme sermons during his amazing speech on race relations in Philadelphia.
But did you know that Sen. Obama’s UCC denomination is one of the few large majority black congregations that has an LGBT-affirming ministry? That has an amazing AIDS outreach ministry? The truth is, while Rev. Wright has made many inflammatory and outlandish comments on a host of issues, Obama’s church is one of the most LGBT-friendly majority black churches in the country.
And what has Rev. Wright said that shows any animus directed toward the LGBT community? Nothing. And why is it fair or even relevant to tar Sen. Obama with Rev. Wright’s most extreme views? It is not. Let’s focus on the real issues, folks.
For Sen. Obama’s views on LGBT issues, views that are more progressive than those of Sen. Clinton and that are very prominently presented on the campaign’s website (Clinton’s LGBT positions are buried many levels down in her website), please visit:
Know hope! Vote for Sen. Barack Obama in the primary on Tuesday.
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